Route 8 (Upper)

As soon as you climb down the stairs just to the west of the start of the route, you'll run into Sina and Dexio, who will power up your Pokédex to enable the Coastal Kalos Pokédex. Pokémon that you find on the next couple of routes and areas are all considered to be in the Coastal Kalos Pokédex, meaning you'll find quite a different variety than the ones earlier on. They are also numbered #001-150, just like the Central Kalos Pokédex, so don't get too confused with the numbers now!

Anyway, head up and then to the east to pick up a hidden Super Potion in the rock just above the entrance. Head back over to the west and then jump down the ledges. Try to hug the western side as much as possible, jumping down until you eventually find an HP Up by a set of ledges. Grab it and then jump down the ledges to the right and you'll wind up where you would have if you went south from where Sina and Dexio were, through a patch of grass.

Don't worry about that patch of grass, as there's more grass just to the south for you to find some new Pokémon in.

Wild Pokémon on Route 8 (Upper)
  Wingull Water
7 (Horde) Commonly appears in a horde (5x Wingull)
Drifloon Ghost
14-15 More common in the normal grass.
Zangoose Normal

8 (Horde)

Can appear in a horde (4x Zangoose, 1x Seviper in X; or 1x Zangoose, 4x Seviper Y; will attack the opposite)
  Seviper Poison

8 (Horde)

Can appear in a horde (4x Seviper, 1x Zangoose in Y; or 1x Seviper, 4x Zangoose in X; will attack the opposite)
Absol Dark


More common in the Yellow flowers.
Bagon Dragon


Spoink Psychc


More common in the normal grass.
Inkay Dark


Mienfoo Fight


More common in the Yellow flowers.
  Taillow Normal

7 (Horde)

Can appear in a horde (5x Taillow). Rare.

Right at the start of the tall grass is Rising Star Paulette, who uses an Axew L19 on her team. Watch out, as it has Dragon Rage, which will do a fixed 40 damage — a LOT of damage at this point in the game! Fairy-type Pokémon are the way to go against it, though.

South of her you'll find a boulder you can't move just yet — you'll need Strength from the second Gym in order to move it — as well as some steps leading up to some yellow flowers, which are more likely to have Pokémon such as Absol and Mienfoo. There's also Rising Star Rhys in the flowers, with a Pancham L15, a Skiddo L16, and a Goldeen L17.

Further south of Rhys you'll find some steps. They'll take you to a fork in the road, where you can head either west or south. Heading west leads you to Black Belt Cadoc with a Machop L20. There's a hidden Escape Rope near the edge of the cliff.

Head south instead and you'll find another patch of normal grass with some rocks you can jump across to further south of that. There are three points where you can hop across the rocks. The topmost path will eventually lead you to Ambrette Town, but wrap around the west and you'll find two other sets of rocks you can jump over to. The top one leads you to a Leaf Stone while the bottom leads you to a dead end. Grab the Leaf Stone, then head back to the rocks directly south of the patch of grass.

To get to Ambrette Town from the rocks directly south of the grass, just hop east one, south five, west one, then just south all the way. If you want to fight a Sky Battle, from the topmost rocks, hop east one, south three, and then east one to find a Sky Trainer. Sky Battles can only be fought by most Flying-type Pokémon and Pokémon with Levitate (not everything, though). If your Pokémon doesn't look like it's flying in battle, like Farfetch'd, it won't be able to participate in the battle. Sky Trainer Howe uses a Drifloon L15 and a Pidgeotto L18, which is good news if you have solid flyers, but bad news if you've only got a Fletchling you just put in your party and haven't bothered training yet.

Assuming you've taken the correct path, you now only need to head south in order to reach Ambrette Town. You can also hop down the ledge to take a shortcut back north should you so desire.


  • #1 Weavillain

    I'd just like to point out that I'm playing the X version and I was able to find Zangoose outside of horde battles a couple of times on this route. Seviper, on the other hand, not once. I ran into about 50 to 70 wild Pokemon along the route so maybe it's easier to find Seviper by itself in Y.  And both Zangoose and Seviper encounters were uncommon. I hope these observations are useful in any way. 

    Last edited by Weavillain: 10/13/2013 6:30:17 PM
  • #2 JacksPokemon

    Zangoose and Seviper are version exclusive, it's impossible to find Seviper in X, and you can't find Zangoose in Y. Unfortunately, Heracross is exclusive to Y, which stinks.

  • #3 Marriland

    I've heard at least two people say that they've run into a Zangoose + Seviper horde where they fought each other, so I included that in there. I have not personally encountered this fight, though.

  • #4 Weavillain

    Ah, so that explains it then. Thanks for clarifying.

  • #5 infernakirby62

    Yeah, I haven't ran into a zangoose yet, and i have Y.

  • #8 Mooshi_

    I had that happen to me. I found and caught a shiny Zangoose when it happened, too! And yes, they do fight each other.

  • #17 LisaRowe

    quick question, do you know we get an item finder/dosing machine at any point?

  • #19 Lieicent

    Gonna say here, I've seen that fight about about three or four times now. I've tried to wipe out all the Seviper before they actually kill the Zangoose, and I don't know if it can be done.

    Edit: So I got super super lucky and I managed to get it

    Last edited by Lieicent: 10/14/2013 1:33:10 AM
  • #21 MarnusC

    Just to back you up on this, I have run into a Zangoose x4 and Seviper x1 horde on this root (playing X Version BTW).  The Zangoose and Seviper to indeed attack each other.

  • #41 sleepywarlord

    Seviper is in X, unless you're talking about it not being by itself in X then maybe? I haven't found one by itself either, but it's always in a group of Zangooses, argh...

  • #43 DrakeVonDrake

    Was sent here by a friend to post my findings because they might be considered interesting. While Zangoose is version exclusive to X as a solo fight, I have found a 5x Seviper horde, unlike most others finding 4x Seviper + 1 Zangoose, and vice versa.

    Possible rare anomaly, but I can safely say I have never fought Seviper alongside a Zangoose in my copy of X, only 5 Seviper at one time.

    Last edited by DrakeVonDrake: 10/15/2013 5:17:44 PM
  • #45 zoidsk270

    I have seen plenty of zangoose x 4 and seviper x1 hordes sicne i have been farming for them with sweet scent but everytime the seviper gets destroyed before i can even take out 2 zangoose and im sitting there with multiple lvl 50+ pokemon anyone else on x had any luck trying to single out and catch the seviper?

  • #51 sleepywarlord

    Yeah, you're right (re: Zangoose). I ended up having to trade a Zangoose for a Seviper :)

  • #52 sleepywarlord

    No, honestly I ended up using the GTS. Finding someone who wanted to trade a Seviper for a Zangoose, or putting up a Zangoose for a Seviper. I tried for a long time myself before getting super frustrated and saying forget this! lol

    Mind you I'm not the most skilled pokemon player so IDK. I ended up trading a Plusle for a Snorlax because I couldn't catch him when I ran into him.

  • #63 beerpowered

    Zangoose is in Y. Encountered him in hordes 3 times on Route 8(Upper)

    1 Zangoose and 4 Seviper. The Seviper attack the Zangoose, and usually kill it before you kill the all Sevipers.

    Sadly still no Taillow.

  • #80 cha0ticlovely

    I just hit the Zangoose + Seviper horde in X, unfortunately Seviper bites the dust long before you get a chance to kill the rest and catch it :/

  • #82 MegaYanMega

    Got that right. Flying's evil though.

  • #87 MagicFennekin

    You know, at first I was like, would I rather have X instead of Y? But I have Y, and you, sir, have made me happy I got Y.

  • #88 oshapig36

    her is how I am  getting taillow. USE SWEET SCENT. It is like honey, u don't use honey

  • #96 jellybean36
    Quote from sleepywarlord »

    No, honestly I ended up using the GTS. Finding someone who wanted to trade a Seviper for a Zangoose, or putting up a Zangoose for a Seviper. I tried for a long time myself before getting super frustrated and saying forget this! lol

    Mind you I'm not the most skilled pokemon player so IDK. I ended up trading a Plusle for a Snorlax because I couldn't catch him when I ran into him.


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